Google Nest Thermostat – Smart Thermostat for Home – Programmable Wifi Thermostat – Snow

Do research before you decide to buy
I was looking for a basic, smart thermostat for our cabin so I could monitor the temperature over the winter in the event of heating issues or someone kicking the door in and it freezing inside; and also, because we turn the heat way down while not there, I could turn it back up on the way there and have it already warm when we arrive. As I read reviews on this thermostat, which I kept going back to when I reviewed others, it seemed like most complaints were about needing a “c” wire to the thermostat and Google not disclosing that. I can’t speak to that as I’m not sure it’s absolutely necessary, I knew nothing of wiring a thermostat to a furnace. I went into it though assuming I needed a “c” wire and researched different ways to do it. There were other complaints like displayed temperature inaccuracies, but at the end of the day I went with the basic Google Nest in sand color (looks pink to me). I’m glad I spent the time researching ahead of time and, so far, glad I didn’t listen to the “don’t buy this product” reviews. Does exactly what I want it to do, easy to use, displays perfectly accurate temperature, and was easy to install (again, glad I researched quite a bit and was prepared). Now for my install experience: Just for the record, my cabin furnace is heat only, so I only really needed 2 low voltage wires from the thermostat to the furnace. The existing cable had 3 wires however, one of which (the green one) was not hooked up at either end. FYI, take the advice of the “how to” videos and take a picture of the wire locations on the old thermostat before removing them, and make sure the furnace breaker is off too. The green wire, as I researched, is usually for operating the furnace fan separate from when it’s on for heating or cooling, something I, and probably most people, don’t use. The white and red wires were hooked to their corresponding letter coded (R&W) spaces on the thermostat and furnace. I had purchased a plug-in 24v transformer with a long set of wires, based on my previous research, to use as the “c” wire, which I learned supplies power to the thermostat. I intended on plugging it into a nearby outlet, running the wire alongside some doorframe trim, which would hide the wire, and into the wall behind the new thermostat. This, I think, would have worked just fine. I also learned though, from watching another “how-to” video just before I started the project, that all furnaces have a 24v connection space along with where all the other thermostat wires would go. So I just hooked the unused green wire to the “c”, or 24v, spot on the furnace and to the “c” connector on the Nest thermostat. *The Nest comes with wire identifying stickers and I did label this wire on both ends to indicate it’s now the power wire. Once the wiring was done, turned the breaker back on and followed the install directions from the Google Home app. The only minor issues I had was that the display was in Celsius, not Fahrenheit, and it took me awhile to figure out that this needed to be changed via the phone app, not the thermostat. There may be a way, but I couldn’t figure that out. Also, was a little nervous because of the previous reviews I read when the initial temperature displayed about 4-5 degrees above the actual temperature, but by the time I cleaned everything up, it was right on. In Google’s defense, it did indicate it takes a little bit to adjust itself. Very happy with it and glad I picked this one-so far anyhow.

Fancy Set Back Thermometer w/ Horrible Instructions – And Not Expandable
UPDATE: Nest AccuracyJust spent 40 minutes chatting with some at the Google store regarding the accuracy of their Nest thermostat product.Asked what I thought was a pretty straightforward question – how accurate is the temperature and humidity data shown in my Nest app? Just installed a new AprilAire whole house humidifier and wanted to quantify the change.Well, it seems there isn’t much documentation available… Was told that they thought the temperature was accurate to 1% – and the same applied to its humidity setting. Pointed out that 1% was probably not an issue at 50% humidity, but would be miles off at a 10% environment.They did offer to sell me another one, I guess to benchmark it to my existing Nest (which might or might not be refurbished), but I declined.Shame consumer products not getting the support they deserve – especially one that directly impacts household environmental quality.Bottom line: Is this thermostat accurate – don’t know.If you’re like me, and would like to know what you’re getting into before you start a project, Nest thermostat installation will be frustrating.Picking one out to begin with is confusing – C wire, no C wire, etc – hooking up fairly straight forward, the tough part is getting the thing to eventually work…There is literally nothing in the box that helps sort any of this out – you will learn/fail as you go along with the on line set up and thousands of YouTube tutorials. Google saves $1 per unit by not including directions and leaves it up to the Nest “community” to walk you through it. Hopefully.After diagnosing we had a wiring issue (wire broke trying to jockeying it into the baseplate) we ended up with a persistent E294 error code. Again, Google saves money by not having any on line live chat or call center and we ended up getting by with one of the YouTube “experts” advice (disconnect and set up again) which finally worked after a couple hours effort.The most telling sign that Google underplays how easy this is to install is how quickly they route you to an installation company to make your headaches go away.The end result is a fancy set back thermometer (which we already had) that connects to your phone, spies on your activity, and encourages you to let your power company decide how comfortable you are going to be.The only benefit I see in this device is potentially easier programming – and seeing and adjusting comfort levels away from home. Spouse works from home, so setback features fairly minimal during the day, but knowing that system was not running properly (which recently happened when out of town) is nice.UPDATE: Much like the Ring doorbell we recently installed, Nest makes it impossible (so far) to easily add a second user to their account. Trying to add myself as a second user, the Nest said there was something wrong with the thermostat and would require yet another factory reset – which I am not ready to do as it has already taken over two hours just to get it working in the first place.Signing in as my spouse, can finally see the pretty basic control panel for the Nest thermostat. Don’t see any system health features (like battery life) or any programming suggestions (like eco mode) that would add value to this product.Without a sizable rebate from our electric utility, probably would have never purchased this product and waste several hours installing and troubleshooting. Support is nearly nonexistent and/or unreliable sourced.UPDATE 2: After battling with the Nest for a week, decided we had to invest more $$$ in a remote temperature sensor. Our Nest is stationed in corner of dining room and therefore sees little traffic to activate it. Having a warm Summer, was getting tired of Nest going Eco on us and letting house get into the 77-78 degree range, especially since it was set to 74.After fiddling around with the remote sensor, it eventually dawned on us that we had just purchased an early generation Nest, built several years ago, which would not recognize any sensor we tried to pair it with. We, wrongly assumed in this case, a brand new Google Nest would be, brand new (latest generation).Had the pleasure of paying $6 to return this useless accessory.

Sleek Thermostat
I’ve been using it for a couple of weeks and so far I think it’s okay! I got it when it was on sale, its very sleek and nice. Not sure if there is any energy savings to it. I did it myself without my husband as he is gone and it was extremely easy. I previously had a honeywell old thermostat and it only had W,Y,R and C was optional with batteries. So I got this version which was exactly what I was needing. Installation was easy and not hard at all with inserting the wires and getting it set up. I also got another accessory to cover the other holds that happened with the old thermostat. Overall I do like the sleeker look. I like that I can adjust and change the temperature on my phone and anywhere I’m at! I have to use the google home app which is not an issue with me at all. I feel like other reviews are very upset but it’s easy and self explanatory. I like to use the heat/cool mode and it’s nice. I do agree I feel like it doesn’t hold a temperature but I will continue to see how it goes!

If you rely on apps, this is for you. Adjusting at the actual stat on the wall in person isn’t the most user friendly tho. There’s no markings on the side that tell you where to touch to change between heat and cool, warmer cooler etc. If you’re intuitive you’ll still be fine, if you’re not intuitive playing with tech and you don’t want to use the app on your phone when you want things warmer or cooler then you’ll probably hate it. Be aware. Personally I love the app, find it extremely convenient and user friendly even for people who don’t like tech, and in the last year have touched my actual stat zero times. I don’t like the look of the other metal ringed nest model but that one does have a typical hands on adjustment style so consider that if you don’t like apps and using your phone.I really like this faded rose color in person but biggest complaint is if you have to cover up old screw holes, unpainted area, or over cut hole from old stat and need to use an optional backplate there’s no matching backplate color. This rose directly on the wall is very nice, but put it on a white plastic backplate and I find it looks tacky. If you need a backplate then get matching white stat.Compared to any other thermostat option currently available I would still make the same purchase and get this nest version again

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